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  • I Just Got a Rental, What Do I Do?

    • Introduction

      • About the Author
      • Progressive Updates
      • Introduction Disclaimer
      • Shameless Self-Promotion
      • Book Introduction
      • Quick Reference 2023
      • Quick Reference 2024
      • Glossary
    • Chap 1 - Ownership Arrangements

      • Real Estate and Rental Properties as a Business
      • Basic Business Entities For Real Estate Investment
      • Sole Proprietorship
      • Single-Member Limited Liability Company (SMLLC)
      • Multi-Member Limited Liability Company (MMLLC)
      • Limited Liability Partnerships (LLP) and General Partnerships (GP)
      • Rental Property In Partnership Entities
      • C Corporations
      • Rental Property In C Corporations
      • S Corporations
      • Pass-Through Versus Disregarded Entity Taxation
      • Your Spouse As A Business Partner (Happy Happy Joy Joy)
      • Owning A Rental Property With Others
      • Real Estate Investing With Family Partners
      • Real Estate Holding Company and Operating Company
      • Pure LLC Holding Company
      • Economic versus Equity Interests
      • Structuring Real Estate Deals with Angel Investors
      • Loans or Capital Injections
      • LLC Benefits For Rental Properties
      • Multi-Entity Rental Property Tiered Structure
      • Using a Trust In Your Real Estate Holding Company
      • Operating Agreements For Real Estate Partnerships
      • Real Estate Succession Planning
      • Fallacy Of A Nevada LLC (or Delaware, or Wyoming, or wherever!)
      • Liability Protection Fallacy Of An LLC
      • Charging Orders
      • Using A Self-Directed IRA Or 401k To Buy A Rental Property
      • Trapped Rental Assets In An S Corporation
    • Chap 2 - Initial Asset Management

      • Getting The Rental Business Launched
      • Rental Property Acquisition Costs
      • Real Estate Asset Setup On Your Tax Returns
      • Cost Segregation Study
      • Retroactive Look-Back Cost Segregation Study
      • Converting Primary Residence To A Rental
      • Moving Your Rental Property Into An LLC
    • Chap 3 - Rental Property Tax Considerations

      • Three Types of Income
      • Passive Activity Loss Limits
      • Passive Income Generators (PIG)
      • Your Small Business As A Passive Income Activity
      • Material Participation Rules
      • What Time Counts For Material Participation
      • Real Estate Professional Status (REPS)
      • Short-Term Rental (STR) Loophole
      • Vacation Home Rules
      • State Problems With Your Rental Property
    • Chap 4 - Rental Property Tax Deductions

      • Chapter Introduction
      • Five Basics to Warm Up To
      • Value of a Rental Property Tax Deduction
      • Rental Property Tax Deductions Themes
      • Section 199A Rental Property Deduction
      • Common Rental Property Tax Deductions
      • Allocation of General Rental Expenses
      • Rental Property Travel Deductions
      • Rental Property Meals
      • Mortgage Interest Tracing
      • Acquisition Costs (revisited)
      • Rental Property Repairs Safe Harbor (revisited)
      • Repairs Versus Improvements (revisited)
      • Rental Property Depreciation (revisited)
      • Automobile Deductions with Rentals
      • Automobile Decision Tree
      • Home Office Deduction
      • Real Estate Education Expenses
      • 185 Rental Property Tax Deductions You Cannot Take
      • Deductions the IRS Cannot Stand
      • Cohan Rule For Rental Property Owners
      • Reducing Taxes
    • Chap 5 - Operational Asset Management

      • Rental Property Repairs Safe Harbors
      • Improvement Versus Repairs
      • Rental Property Renovations (Rehab)
      • Accelerated Depreciation and Section 179 Deduction
      • Allowed Versus Allowable Depreciation
      • Qualified Improvement Property (QIP)
      • Partial Asset Disposition (PAD)
      • 1031 Like-Kind Exchange
      • Selling Your Rental Property
      • Buying Out Your Real Estate Partner
      • Taking The Rental Out of Service
      • Changing Depreciation Between 27.5 and 39.0 Years
    • Chap 6 - Retirement Planning

      • Retirement Planning Within Your Rental Property
      • Basic Retirement Planning
      • Tax Savings and Tax Deferrals
      • The Owners-Only 401k Plan
      • Roth 401k Plans
      • Roth 401k Versus Traditional 401k Considerations
      • Two 401k Plans
      • Rolling Old 401k Plans or IRAs into Your Small Business 401k Plan
    • Epilogue

      • Rental Property Tax Return Preparation
      • Rental Property Accounting
      • Real Estate CPAs
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Two 401k Plans

two 401k plans

By Jason Watson, CPA
Posted Saturday, September 28, 2024

Another twist. Let’s say you have a side business and a regular W-2 job where you max out your deferrals into the 401k plan. You cannot make employee deferrals to your side business solo 401k plan since you are collectively limited to $23,000 (for the 2024 tax year) or $30,500 with catch-up, but your business can make a discretionary non-elective contribution up to $69,000 or $76,500 with catch-up (for the 2024 tax year).

Here is the word for word example from the IRS using 2016 limits of $18,000 as an example (occasionally they illustrate things well)-

Greg, 46, is employed by an employer with a 401(k) plan and he also works as an independent contractor for an unrelated business. Greg sets up a solo 401(k) plan for his independent contracting business. Greg contributes the maximum amount to his employer’s 401(k) plan for 2016, $18,000. Greg would also like to contribute the maximum amount to his solo 401(k) plan. He is not able to make further elective deferrals to his solo 401(k) plan because he has already contributed his personal maximum, $18,000.

He has enough earned income from his business to contribute the overall maximum for the year, $53,000. Greg can make a non-elective contribution of $53,000 to his solo 401(k) plan. This limit is not reduced by the elective deferrals under his employer’s plan because the limit on annual additions applies to each plan separately.

Good ol’ Greg. From the employer or business perspective, a discretionary non-elective contribution is in contrast to a matching contribution. This means that a contribution can be without the employee making a deferral. This is key since in the tidy IRS example above, Greg has max’d out his deferrals at his regular job, so he cannot make additional deferrals with his side business. However, the business can make a non-elective contribution.

A non-elective contribution means that the business’s contribution is not dependent on the employee’s deferral. Seems counter-intuitive. In other words, you do not put anything into the 401k plan, but your business can contribute up to 20% of your income from the business as a garden variety LLC (or 25% of your W-2 from your business if electing S Corporation status). These are also referred to as discretionary contributions.

Sidebar: The phrase profit-sharing contributions is sometimes used as well. However, this is like interchanging 401k and IRA. Technically, a profit-sharing plan is different than a 401k plan, and it can either be standalone or deployed in combination with a 401k plan.

Therefore, if a company has excess profits (cash) and wants to make a contribution to the 401k plan, these are considered discretionary non-elective contributions and not profit-sharing contributions. This is because a 401k plan is being used and not a profit-sharing plan. Our apologies for splitting hairs and getting all nerdy on the nomenclature.

In summary, the $23,000 (for the 2024 tax year) limit is your limit as a person. But each 401k plan has a limit of $69,000 (see the last line of the IRS example on the previous page using 2016’s limits) which can add a lot of muscle to your self-employed retirement plan.

No, you cannot add your W-2s together (main job and side job) and use that for the basis of your side job / business employer contribution. That would be nice though.

Warning! Each year a handful of small business owners neglect to let us know they picked up W-2 income on the side, and they also forget to inform us that they contributed to their “side W-2 gig’s” 401k plan. Yes, we ask. We ask often. Therefore, keep in mind that the $23,000 deferral limit into a 401k plan (for the 2024 tax year) is for all plans, combined.

Jason Watson, CPA, is a Senior Partner of WCG CPAs & Advisors, a boutique yet progressive tax,
accounting and business consultation firm located in Colorado serving real estate investors worldwide.


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